why not just make moon goo npc only at a set price..then when goon's throw a big fit in jita why not have the caldari navy blow the hell out of them and destroy their assets..that would be funny as hell..

Grath "Vibrant Drone Regions" Telkin arrives in the thread.

does that mean alex will stop giving you reacharounds and you can actually be a merc alliance again?

or did test win you over with man love?

Goon tears incomming, well done CCP, thanks for fixing this design failure that has been exploited too long :)

i would stfu, if my alliance fc's lead fleets full of goon shitheads only because he can suck mittens tech ****** ;)

sorry you'r wrong we had one year of tech and our corp is so incredible rich now, you cant believe it :D

check alliance history if you need to smack

btw funny to see that renter mining and santum running alliance has more kills this month than elite legion :D (think evekill counts npc kills too)

yeah thats why this noobs still killed 100b more ;)

and talking of quality while shadoo fcs drakefleets is kinda ironic :D

yes my style of pros is horrible... but still that should not detract from the point that cfc has turned into what they fought to kill all those years ago... its like how luke lashed out at darth and then ended up turing to the dark side in episode 7.

oh thank you grath... i do apprichiate looking over my lack of using spell check... :)

well back in the day bob said to goons this is our game and goons were like we are fun loving guys so we dont like how you are all about leet pvp so well rifter gang bang you to death...

but then something changed when goons gost disbanded and all the good leaders went to ccp... they became what they hated... the new bob... they are the richest peeps who are not telling people litterally this is thier game and we all have to just accept that...

well i do hope that now the tech bro love fest will die and that will mean that goons can go back to thier roots and become just as terrible as they once were... and when most of eve lubed them for it...

I mean if RA can s[lit how many times and they eneded up in a death match... could we not eventually see goons fight test?

though for PL you guys never change even when you were merc alliance all those years ago... your still sucling on the richest persons bosums...

so kol ha kavod to you for staying true to your morals...

well when one suffers from selective reading its rather hard to come to anyother conclusion...

you grath perhaps i should not have turned down your offer of man love... you seem to be a rather strict but sensual lover...

now good sir we knew i was an idiot before i started to post so no need to get personal...

kind sir why be upset that your new overloards are like you old ones...

only difference i can see is sir molle had better style and was not as racist...
oh and right now goons dont chuck thier meat shields away...

but come the nerf i and when you guys are fighting against goons again i suspect that goons will start to treat thier allies (pets) just like the GBC did...

Rumors without accompanying evidence will be removed. - ISD Tyrozan.. The Chatter is all getting around...The community will find out about the people who no longer work at CCP and play eve within the CFC. Atleast that is what the eve community hears. Would CCP lie to us about it ? It would not be CCPs faulty anyway not 100%. I assume these ex employees signed NDAs but once they no longer work for you...DO you think they will hold to them ? I think not but... regardless this nerf is great and I am glad CCP is doing something about the re-balance. Here goes another 8 years of EVE :) The simple fix for that is to flip it to something else and the ill gotten intel is worthless simple

Fly safe.

PS ISD Tyrozan
The truth will come out. If this is either true or false the answer always comes out. I personally have no damn Idea. But you think it is just coincidence ?

Not quite "Vibrant drone regions" or "supercap nerf won't change us" stupid though. Your trophy is safe.

Continuing his perfect badpost track record, Grath Telkin conflates the present post-compound post-Dodger drone regions with the situation it was in when he made the statement.

yeah, if mining raw cobalt and platinum is only slightly less proftable then transmuting them to Technetium, that means alchemy+ at razor-slim profit margins is barely more efficient then technetium trade which is saddled by a markup of thousands of percentage. which means this solves very little except capping tech prices at their present value which CCP Fozzy described as "broken".

Whether it's some POS push my alliance never participated in or some posting fee that doesn't exist, keeping track of the incoherent hallucinations ("Vibrant drone regions") you assert as reality is difficult to follow. You're to credibility what MeBiatch is to spelling.

Re: DO NOT TALK IN LOCAL
From: Arch-ûeb-¦ld Hornby
Sent: 2012.06.28 14:15
To: Ca-òcade Imminent

From now on an increasing fine goes to anyone saying anything but GF in local when neuts are present.
1st offense : 50m
2nd offense : 250m
3rd offense : 800m

If anyone sees anyone doing this mail GAGS Pevi a picture

-Archie

Yea it kind of does when you claim that "forum posting results in a fine" and post an unrelated e-mail about forbidding in-game chat in local. You see Grath, this is an internet browser, not an in-game EVE channel
hth

I'm at work at the moment; just read the list of rules on our forum which you doubtlessly have mirrored: no rule on forum posting.

In essence, this reduces the cost of ships/modules across the board f

Because that seems to be one of the, if not stated, implied goals. If not I have mis-interpreted what they are attempting.

Right now you are giving the dominant alliances all the power.

I'm putting my money on #2. I like this; this is a good thing. Thank you. Alchemy is an interesting, market driven solution to supply issues in Eve.

One totaly unrelated game mechanic that could also break the Tech monopoly would be to make standings based on player actions, not just a click of a button. Too much of the game is blue to each other. Indiscretions done to an Alliance should not be so easily forgotten.
To stop this from being exploited by Awoxres this would need personal, corp and Alliance standings exactly like is done with NPC agents/Corps/Factions. If your personal standings towards an alliance you are in drop to a certain point, you get a warning, if they drop lower you loose all roles, if they drop bellow a set threshold you get a 24 hour warning that you are being automaticaly kicked from your corporation.

END this mass of iveryone being blue. blob warefare needs to be attacked from every direction.

timeline

PL allies with drone peeps and raiden to take out the nothern coalition...

they then set thier eyes on cfc but that fails HARD!

Eventually when it looks like raiden and friends cant hold thier space...

PL get an offer fro CFC saying we will let you keep your Tech moons if you play nice and fight for us...

so yeah... no one gave you tech PL... but you are now a member of the cfc and mittenz allowed you to keep them...

so admit it if you step out of line you loose your tech and loose your reinbursement program and then fighting becomes an actual risky adventure...

as a first step alchemy is a good one...

i am more interested in how they are going to rebalance tech II production costs... thats going to be the real Tech nerf...

you wont see goons doing active ring mining ops and then giving their hard earned isk to you just for nothing...

Nah im one of those guys who likes to play games and does not take them too seriously... You on the other hand...

[quote=Gunner]

Also, a little upset to see Fozzy having the nerve to ask for likes, in the face of the fact that there is no dislike button, for all of us to express our dislike for the way the situation is being handled, or the extremely vague nature of the blog, or the fact that alchemy isn't going to do anything.

How does that differ from changing the materials needed in T2 production, like they did before?
Which costed me around 25b in reaction input stock i had at the time?
If that was is legitimate change, then redistributing moon minerals once so that not all stuff sits in one particular place, certainly is too!

You are just plain lazy and want a static environment, meaning you should not even play a game like EVE that undergoes so many changes over its lifetime!

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This system could allow WH systems to produce goo as well making moon surveying in unknown space a profession.

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Most scanning is done already anyways, in search of combat anomalies.

SRY DEV'S BUT IS BE 2 MONTH NOW AND NO ANSWERS FOR 2 MONTHS IN THES POST HERE https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112481&p=74

Goonswarm leadership has been advocating for a Technetium nerf for a very long time - and now that it actually comes they are all mad about CCP removing valuable content from the game?

lolwut

so apparently, its not worth doing anything without beeing "financially worth it", but you totally dont care about the money... right?

I completely agree that some space being better than other space is good game design.
But the game doesn't need 180k tech to have conflict. Tech is now only 5x the value of the second best moon instead of 11x. The profit there isn't disappearing, it's moving to other activities that people can get involved in.
Arguing that we need 100k+ tech so the moons will drive conflict is like saying we need remote AOE doomsdays so that CSAAs will drive conflict. Sometimes game balance is just game balance.

Once upon a time all it took to generate conflict was a prophet foreseeing the destruction of an alliance and fulfilling his own prophecy. I don't believe those days are gone.

I think it is funny how the OTECH guys are crying buckets over this change and saying it's the only thing that fuels conflicts. When it is really only fueling a one sided war where the rest of EVE suffers.

These changes are right on the money to bring things back inline to where things need to be at not where you want them to be at. Suck it up.

Did Technetium @ 200k ever do what your predicting?.

When Ring mining comes out there will be.

They will be called MINERS. They will be players that mine. And they will be out there mining. And then people will want to kill them.

It is my impression that at the moment tech is a major reason why alliances avoid conflict.

It makes perfect sense to form a technetium cartel,

It is also obvious that other non-tech alliances pose no threat. Will there be an coalition that does in half a year? In a year perhaps? I wonder, is complete stagnation in null during this period, while otec banks isk, good for the game?

Ok, you did some nice selective quoting there. Certainly you won't call Nulli/BL skirmishing and grabbing a tech from Goons a credible threat to your monopoly, do you? I merely argued that tech/otec prevents conflict *at this moment*.

@ Grath
I agree that there have been fights in the past over tech moons (mostly between current OTEC parties btw.) and you kinda deserved to milk them to some degree, but come on, thats almsot 2 years ago now, double-digit trillions is enough to play for a while.

The worst part of your moaning is, that nobody is taking your tech moons away...you are basicly just crying about the fact,that you cant exploit your monopoly position anymore since you wont be the only one provinding PlaTe .... nothing else is happening to you, you still get your fair price for your tech, but thats apparently not enough.